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Post by Admin on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:30 am

Future economic development of China depends on its ability to develop its creative industries. Discuss the barriers and challenges facing such transformation.

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Post by thomas_zhai(2013960613) on Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:37 pm

China education would be the key to human creativity.

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Post by liuyanchen on Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:59 pm

I think one barrier is the numerous authority applications. Google can be started in a garage in US. But the same situation is illegal in China. Our creative ideas are blocked by the high threshold to start our own business.
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Post by thomas_zhai(2013960613) on Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:14 pm

totally agree with upstair. part of creativity comes from free communication without boundaries..

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Intellectual property protection is a big problem in China

Post by RockyYang on Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:25 pm

I think one of the biggest barriers for creative industries is weak  intellectual property protection(IPR). I know many of us think we get benefits from loose control of IPR. We use pirate software, watch illegal copies of movies and play cracked video games. Enjoy free  intellectual property seems very pleasure for ordinary users, but it is a extremely harmful for creative industries of our country.
Because we can get the pirate copies of most expensive and advanced software with little cost, small software company's cheap and medium software cannot be accepted and bought by users. Today, there is not any truly successful software company in China. Most of software companies in China are surviving on outsourcing or software service. Our movie industry's income is only from box office receipts, because Chinese movie companies almost impossible to sell DVDs for profit due to massive pirate DVDs and countless illegal download websites. In contrast, US film firms earn half of their revenue from authorized copies of movies and other products.
I think it is the time that Chinese judicial system and government should protest intellectual property seriously. If not, the creative industries would be very hard to develop in the country.

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Post by Vickie_XU on Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:52 pm

Aah, great to take the 5th seat Cool 

From my perspective, the key issue hinders this transformation are human minds, in other words, the national culture. Though in history, China is reputed with ”the Four Great Inventions". Starting from its Imperial Examination, the creative minds are killed by heart memorizing and blind following since we are young. Human Resources(acute, flexible, authoritative, etc) are one of the significant factor for a creative world now and forever.

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Post by Isaac_li on Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:00 pm

I would like to post 1 point from my perspective. Creativity needs free atmosphere and encouraging regulations, but Chinese traditional tends to dump the knowledge and thought into children's brain which is lack of enough thinking. So, in my mind, the schools should change the method they are used to and start to encourage children to think rather than remember. If children raise different points, teachers should explain and inspire them. Of course, IP protection is also very important.

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Post by 2013960194_Frank_Ma on Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:05 pm

I agree with Xu Yaqin that chinese education is for examination not for innovation; however, China has huge population base and limited resources which makes current examination system as a relatively fair and most practical system for resource allocation. During the economic growth, creative ideas/innovation capability will be more and more recognized by encouraging sucessful stories of enterprisers like Ma Yun.

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Post by 2013960194_Frank_Ma on Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:15 pm

It's astonished to hear that Nokia-- the former leading mobile communication company has sold its mobile business to Microsoft. It's verified that the distuptor will finally be disrupted or even finally discarded by competitors/market if it lost its innovation capability of keeping the track with industry development and maintaining core competitive strength.

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Post by 2013960194_Frank_Ma on Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:28 pm

It's astonished to hear that Nokia-- the former leading mobile communication company has sold its mobile business to Microsoft. It's verified that the distuptor will finally be disrupted or even finally discarded by competitors/market if it lost its innovation capability of keeping the track with industry development and maintaining core competitive strength.

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Post by Lin Haiping on Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:38 pm

My personal view is that China's new round of technological innovation ,driven by Central Government, has already begun.It will stimulate more investors to enter this field.And as the strong policy guidance of the Chinese government at present,more and more companies would like to join into creative industries.For innovation?NO,they are just seeking for duty-free tax policies.
In recent days the hottest technology news from China is that Xiaomi,the"Apple of China", served notice of its international ambitions when hiring Barra from Google. But I am quite concerned that a China company ,the brilliant one from thousands of named"creative industry" companies,going global is a big risk, since not many Chinese companies performed successfully.
Why so many Chinese high-tech companies finally listed in the U.S.? Why there are so many piracy cases in China?
There are three barriers and challenges for us ,namely,the lack of the Global experience in the field of innovation, without enough legal protection from the domestic government to encourage innovation,and the Chinese market is not the full market economy status.Very few Chinese companies can get so such support from government and state-owned banks just like Xiaomi,much more Chinese enterprises are still struggling to survive and give up innovation.

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One of the Chinese traditional culture is a big barrier to develop creative industry

Post by daijun2013969504 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:15 am

As one of the most important chinese traditional culture, authoritarian has been the main form from Qin dynasty,the first dynasty in china.

The feature of the authoritarian is all people bend their knees to only one person,the king and execute the one's order without objection. The objecter only have one fate: be killed or be exiled in order to keep the whole political system from disruption.

The biggest benifit of such culture is effctive execution. Even in the 21 century china, we still can see the shadow of authoritarian. When we talk about the building of the biggest GaoTie network in just 5 years, i can see it. The biggest harm of such culture is the lack of equal spirit, because people in such culture only know how to keep orders come from authorities.

Equal spirit and flow communication is the key factors to develop creative industry and individual creativity. So, above all, the chinese traditional culture- authoritarian is a important barrier to chinese creativity.

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Conservative mindset and lack of government support stand in the way

Post by zhouqing2013970333 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:51 am

First, most Chinese people lack creative thinking. They think by the rule, because it's what the parents, teachers, the society have been telling them to do, because it's the education they receive since elementary school. They get reward for delivering what is expected rather than what's surprising.
Second, even if they do come up with some brilliant ideas, most are cut off by conservative personality. They'd rather stay safe than take risks.
Third, the resource for putting ideas into reality is scarce. There have been some favourable policies for start up companies, but still not as effective as in western countries. The cost of failure is still high if one plans to start a business. As an employee, few have sufficient freedom and support from management to realize big thoughts.

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The Change of Traditional Culture and The Seriously Consideration of Progress

Post by Jeffrey Wang on Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:00 am

I think creative industries are introduced and promoted by people’s innovation. While it is the Chinese traditional culture, conformist mentality, that results in hindering the development of creativity. Chinese people are inclined to echo the views of others, instead of standing out to express. In contrarily; western people are cultivated with independent personality in their educational system. So the innate creativity is more easily inspired and creative thinking is eventually carried out to form the creative industries.

And now it is gratifying to find the encouragement of innovation everywhere in China. The surroundings and atmosphere of free communication produce many good ideas in enterprise and government. The mainstream culture makes positive impact on the masses. Those creative people come to lie inside the mainstream of current opinion. Such transformation brings along the new point of change and growth in future economic development of China.

Moreover, the transformation into creative industries would be undertaken at the cost of mounts of manpower, material resources and financial resources. It should be seriously considered that how the enterprise at that fast pace, along with the development of China, to share the original internal resource with the creative segment. In the same way, the government should also be prepared to take the ailment during the economic restructuring.

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Regain our creativity from here. Regain our creativity from now on.

Post by Dr. Ali on Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:45 am

Viewpoints above from my classmates are really awesome. I believe Prof. Farhoomand has already read them at least three times. And he is better than us in this field. I'd like to make two simple points.

First, from external cause, most Chinese people are struggling to afford themselves.
A young man with lofty dreams can be easily overwhelmed by high housing price, food safety and so forth. We exchange time for money because we are short of money. Then We are short of both time and money. Most of us live so hard that we don't have sufficient energy to be creative. That's why poverty and ambition make strange bedfellows.

Second, from internal cause, Chinese people are highly intelligent. We'll take a shortcut by all means to gain an edge.
The most typical phenomenon is copy. The smarter we are, the more we like to copy. There is an example that illustrates the point in the graphic way.
After Thomas Zhai used his name and student number as forum ID, we all followed him without thinking and used Chinese name, English name or student number, even default title of reply.

Maybe it's easy for Prof. Farhoomand to recognize us. Meanwhile, we've lost our creativity unconsciously from a different perspective.

As MBAs, we're elites and hopes of China. If we can't be radically creative, who will be? Let's regain our creativity from ourselves.
(BTW, who said the discussion was limited to text. We can use picture, diagram and even video.)


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